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Referendum per l'indipendenza del Veneto - 16-21 marzo 2014

COME SI VOTA

Sarà spedito a tutti i cittadini veneti un codice personale per poter votare al seguente quesito: “Vuoi che il Veneto diventi una Repubblica Federale indipendente e sovrana?”

L’indizione della Votazione Elettronica segue l’approvazione della Risoluzione 44/2012 da parte della Regione Veneto e di tutti i Comuni e province del Veneto che hanno approvato il percorso referendario per l’indipendenza del Veneto.

Il quesito che sarà posto a tutti i cittadini veneti residenti con diritto di voto sarà il seguente: “VUOI CHE IL VENETO DIVENTI UNA REPUBBLICA FEDERALE INDIPENDENTE E SOVRANA?”.

Ogni cittadino potrà votare con un Sì, oppure con un No.

Come si voterà.

1. RICEVERAI A CASA IL CODICE PERSONALE SEGRETO PER VOTARE. Dal 1° al 15 marzo ACCEDI AL SITO WWW.PLEBISCITO.EU PER LA PRE-REGISTRAZIONE AL VOTO: riceverai tutte le istruzioni per votare comodamente da casa tua e per abilitare il codice di voto laddove tu non abbia ricevuto la comunicazione postale personale.

2. USA IL CODICE il giorno DOMENICA 16 MARZO 2014 DALLE ORE 7 ALLE ORE 22 E DA LUNEDÌ 17 A VENERDÌ 21 MARZO DALLE ORE 9 ALLE ORE 18.

3. VOTA ATTRAVERSO INTERNET: usa un qualsiasi computer o dispositivo mobile, collegandoti al sito internet www.plebiscito.eu.

Oppure, VOTA CON IL TELEFONO: se non hai la possibilità di collegarti ad internet, telefonando al numero 0423 40 20 16.

Ti verrà chiesto il tuo codice e quindi il tuo voto. Potrai quindi anche indicare una preferenza per il candidato che vorrai eleggere per attuare la tua volontà. I candidati saranno consultabili dal 1° marzo sul sito www.plebiscito.eu. Ogni cittadino veneto con diritto di voto potrà candidarsi a far parte della delegazione dei plenipotenziari veneti accedendo al sito dal 20 febbraio prossimo e fino al 1° marzo.

Le operazioni di voto avverranno precisamente domenica 16 marzo dalle ore 7 alle ore 22 e da lunedì 17 a venerdì 21 marzo dalle ore 9 alle ore 18.

http://www.venetosi.org/come-si-vota/



Venezien stimmt über die Selbstbestimmung ab

Süd-Tiroler Freiheit – Freies Bündnis für Tirol, 17. März 2014

Noch bis zum 21. März ruft die parteiübergreifende Bewegung Plebiscito.eu alle Wahlberechtigten in der Region Venezien auf, sich an einem Onlinereferendum zum Thema Unabhängigkeit zu beteiligen. Auf den Wahllisten der Region eingetragene Bürger können online einen Code erhalten, um folgende Frage zu beantworten: „Wollen Sie, dass das Veneto eine föderale, unabhängige und souveräne Republik wird?“

„Unser Ziel ist es, über einen demokratischen Weg die Unabhängigkeit Venetiens von Italien zu erreichen. Dieser Weg führt über ein Referendum, das auf internationalem Recht fußt“, so der Initiator der Referendumskampagne, Gianluca Busato.

Nach der Logik der Organisatoren des Referendums kann sich die Region von Italien abspalten, weil sie einst nach einem Referendum an Italien abgeschlossen wurde.

http://www.suedtiroler-freiheit.com/venezien-stimmt-ueber-die-selbstbestimmung-ab/



From the Grand Canal to Juliet's balcony, a 'Yes' from Veneto to cutting ties with Rome can blaze a trial for Scotland

Michael Day, The Independent, Rome, 16 March 2014

There has been much water under the Bridge of Sighs since Napoleon Bonaparte marched into Venice ending 1,100 years of independence in the city state.

But tomorrow, more than two centuries after Napoleon barged in, and almost 150 years after Venice finally became part of Italy, the five million citizens of the lagoon and Veneto region could again cut ties with Rome.

Egged on by independence campaigners in Scotland and Catalonia, a majority "Yes" vote could set in train events that see the evocative city once again become the capital of an independent sovereign state.

The referendum, which closes next Saturday, is not recognised by Rome or the regional authorities, but its proponents say a positive outcome could create a head of steam that would make independence inevitable.

Northern League politicians promoting the creation of a new Republic of Veneto say they have history on their side. The Venetian Republic was, they note, one of the most important and enduring states in European history, lasting from the late seventh century until 1797, when Bonaparte deposed the last doge.

The independent trading power fostered artists including Giorgione, Bellini and Titian.

Activists say 65 per cent of voters in the Veneto, including in historic Treviso, Vicenza and Verona, are in favour of independence. They cite dissatisfaction among the richer northern cities with Rome's perceived inefficiency and with tax revenue being diverted to the poorer south.

The populist Northern League – together with much of the region's electorate – sees the capital and the rest of the country as a drain on the local economy. The party's leader in Veneto, Federico Caner, cites official figures that suggest this wealthy and industrialised region pays €20bn more in taxes to Rome than it receives in investment and services.

"We have our own identity, history and culture," he said. "Before Italy was a nation, Venice was the world's first democratic republic that had endured for 1,000 years."

Not every one is in favour of independence. "It is anachronistic to think of a Europe made out of regions when we should strive for a Europe of stronger nations," said Pietro Piccinetti, president of the Committee for the "No" vote. "We want to change, but within a stronger Italy."

Voters will also be asked if an independent Venice should join the EU and Nato, and retain the euro. And therein lies one of the problems with the succession plan, says Fabrizio Marrella, a Veneto-born professor of international law at the Ca' Foscari University, perched on the banks of Venice's Grand Canal.

He thinks Italy's constitution would make secession for Veneto much more arduous than for Scotland or Catalonia. "If it were to become independent, Veneto would leave the EU and then have to re-apply for EU membership. [WHY WOULD IT "HAVE" TO JOIN THE E.U.?] This would spell disaster for Veneto's economy," he said.

The Italian establishment appears to be ignoring uppity Venetians' independent ambition. National newspapers and television channels have ignored the Veneto poll. However, even those who do not favour independence say that the Venetian referendum is an important political message that Rome must heed, sooner or later.

1 COMMENT

nbr1631

What we're beginning to see here is Europe finding its feet....its natural divisions and communities.

I became aware of this on a tour of Europe in the sixties. Even though a youngster at the time, I had the sensation of travelling through a shell-shocked, wounded series of countries. The bullet holes and bomb damage were still visible in places.

The place was riddled with oddities. Crossing from Austria into North 'Italy'. in actual fact you were really still in Austria. The Alto Adige or Sud Tirol?
it felt more like Sud Tirol to me.

Then there was Alsace-Lorraine or Alsass-Lodringen.

Was one in Germany or France? I was never quite sure.

A friend visited Czeckoslovakia and exclaimed to his host, "This is a very nice area. Everything looks so ship-shape and Bristol fashion."

"Yes, replied the Czeck host, somewhat sourly, "This is the German part"

Suddenly it occurs, that a lot of the borders, and countries are highly artificial. Germany and Italy are very recent creations. The anomalies and curiosities of the notorious Versailles Treaty still seem to be undergoing correction. The recent independence of Slovakia being a notable example.

For some time I have been aware of the potential split between N and S Italy, so I am not too surprised by developments in Veneto.

What seems to be happening is this

4yrs WW1. No time to settle and adjust.The changes imposed were just too great to adjust to.

6yrs of WW2. 20 yrs to get back to normality.

20 yrs of dreaming and planning for the future, something you don't do when shell-shocked.

20 rs of hoping for the best, as at least some of the dreams and promises are made real.

Now 20 yrs of disappointment and disillusionment with growing murmurs of discontent. The plans and dreams were not so great. The dream has gone sour. Old loyalties, certainties and values are re-asserting themselves.

Europe has its natural divisions but has not had the opportunty to express them, due to 2 ruinous wars and their long-lingering after effects.

Perhaps that process is getting underway now that there is the opportunity to do so, for the first time in over a hundred years



Sunday referendum may see Venice elect to secede from Italy

Nick Squires, The Telegraph | March 15, 2014

Voting begins Sunday on a referendum on whether Venice and its surrounding region should secede from the rest of Italy, in an attempt to restore its 1,000-year history as a sovereign republic.

La Serenissima — or the Most Serene Republic of Venice — was an independent trading power for a millennium before its last leader was deposed by Napoleon in 1797. The republic encompassed not just Venice but what is now the surrounding region of Veneto and it is there that the vote will take place from tomorrow until Friday.

Campaigners have been inspired by the example of Scotland, which will hold its referendum on independence in September, and Catalonia, where around half the population say they want to break away from Spain.

Activists say that the latest polling shows that 65% of voters in the Veneto region, which includes historic cities such as Treviso, Vicenza and Verona, are in favour of cutting ties with Rome.

For decades there has been deep-seated dissatisfaction in the rich northern regions of Italy with what is widely regarded as inefficient and venal rule from Rome, as well as resentment that hard-won tax revenues are sent south and often squandered.

About 3.8 million people in Veneto are eligible to vote. Campaigners want a future state to be known as Repubblica Veneta — the Republic of Veneto.

They acknowledge that the vote is not binding on the national government in Rome and could cause a big constitutional upheaval, but insist that if it passes, they will start taking steps to withhold taxes, in what would effectively be a unilateral declaration of independence.

“If there is a majority yes vote, we have scholars drawing up a declaration of independence and there are businesses in the region who say they will begin paying taxes to local authorities instead of to Rome,” Lodovico Pizzati, the spokesman for the independence movement, told The Daily Telegraph.



RT:

[...]

Venice may also sever ties with the European Union and NATO if it gains its independence.

"Venetians not only want out of Italy, but we also want out of the euro, the EU and NATO," Raffaele Serafini, a pro-independence activist, told the Telegraph.

[...]

Giovanni Dalla Valle, head of the Veneto independence movement, told RT that there is nothing Italy can do to stop the region from becoming independent.

“We have to fight for it [independence]. We will do it in a peaceful, diplomatic way. We do strongly believe that when the majority wants to be independent there is nothing they [the Italian government] can do,” he said to RT.



ARRESTED

VENETO INDEPENDENCE LEADERS ARRESTED BY ITALIAN MILITARY

RUSSIAN AND VENETIAN REPORTERS ALSO HELD FOR IDENTIFICATION AND QUESTIONING


PRESS OFFICE OF “PLEBISCITO.EU”
March 15, 2014

Washington, DC – On March 14 Russian reporters Alla Demidova and Olga Kameneva flew from Moscow to Venice with an entire NTV troupe to film a reportage on the referendum of independence of Veneto to be held on March 16. The most adequate place to interview supporters of the rebirth of the Venetian Republic had to be in front of the Dogal Palace, where for centuries prominent Venetian families met to rule over their maritime empire. While interviewer and interviewees were surrounded by curious tourists and their flashing cameras, the surreal happened.

The Italian military police, a.k.a. Carabinieri, arrived escorted by 25 army soldiers wearing bullet proof vests. They ordered the Russian cameraman, as well as his Venetian colleague from local TV station Antenna Tre, to immediately stop filming, and took down the Venetian flags that two referendum organizers were carrying. “It is severely forbidden to wave St. Mark’s flag in St. Mark’s square!” ["E'severamente proibito sventolare la bandiera di San marco in P, San Marco!"] yelled the Carabinieri commander (he refused to provide his name). He then proceeded by requesting documents for identification and questioning of Gianluca Busato, president of venetosi.org, the committee for the Yes vote, Orazio Scomazzon and Raffaele Serafini, coordinators of venetosi.org for Vicenza’s province.

The carabiniere then requested documents from the Antenna Tre journalists and the Russian NTV troupe. He refused the Russian passports as not valid in Italy because they were written in Cyrillic and pretended to see valid documents. He later accepted them once it was pointed out to him that they also had an English version, and accepted Serafini’s translation of the Russian passports from English to Venetian. He finally demanded identification to two Japanese citizens who were filming the whole scene while in line for their gondola ride.

Serafini, Scomazzon and Busato were then brought in to the Carabinieri station for further questioning. Once released they were met by detective Zago of the Italian police in Venice, who was investigating why the military police was interfering with civilians and journalists. Zago confirmed that Italian law forbids waving St. Mark’s flag in St. Mark’s square, but he added that technically the area between the Dogal Palace and the gondola’s station, where the arrest happened, is not considered part of the square, which is only in front of St. Mark’s basilica around the corner Everywhere else in the city people can display the flag of their patron saint without fearing military intimidation.

While this lost in translation incident happened in Venice, in nearby Treviso the mainframe of plebiscito.eu, the bipartisan committee in charge of the referendum procedures, received a massive hacker attack. “We have in our database the vital records of all 3.8 million adult Venetian citizens and their voting codes, and without it we would not be able to verify the validity and uniqueness of each vote” explains Alessandro Giacomella, Chief IT Officer of plebiscito.eu ”the attack (a combination of DDOS and other brute-force attempts to unlock our systems) arrived from French IP, but we managed to neutralize that in a minute.”

http://blog.plebiscito.eu/news/veneto-independence-leaders-arrested-by-italian-military-russian-and-venetian-reporters-also-held-for-identification-and-questioning/



IN FOUR DAYS VENETO VOTES TO SECEDE FROM ITALY. AFTER GRILLO, GOVERNOR ZAIA ALSO WITHDRAWS HIS SUPPORT

GIANE on marzo 13, 2014

PRESS OFFICE OF “PLEBISCITO.EU”
March 12, 2014

March 16 referendum will also ask Venetians if they want the new Venetian Republic to be part of the European Union, to adopt the Euro, and to be a NATO ally.

Los Angeles, CA – After expressing his complete support for March 16 referendum on the independence of Veneto during an interview on Radio 24, Veneto’s Governor Luca Zaia has stunningly withdrew his blessing just five days before the vote. The daily newspaper Libero reports that the Northern Leagues’ governor stated he will not vote as it would be a contradiction since it is his own provvedimento. He instead suggested waiting and see what happens on November 9 with the referendum on Catalonia’s independence.

This is the second blow that the referendum committee Plebiscito.eu receives in the week prior to the vote, as opposition leader Beppe Grillo also had initially sustained the referendum on March 8, and then immediately back pedaled on March 9. “Zaia is trying to belittle the March 16 referendum by calling it a petition because the Regional Government is being bypassed by an astonishing coalition of City Councils” explains Franco Rocchetta, founder of Liga Veneta, the precursor and co-founder of the (originally fairly acting) Northern League. “The Region has stalled, and an overwhelming number of Venetian town halls have banded together to have the referendum on March 16.” 90 percent of Venetian towns have provided citizens’ vital record information to Plebiscito.eu in order to have them receive election documents. Venetians will not only be asked on the ballot “Do You Want Veneto to Become an Independent and Sovereign Federal Republic?”, but they will also nominate ten delegates to execute the declaration of independence. This would delegitimize the regional governing body and indirectly dethrone Zaia’s leadership with a massive popular vote.

In addition to voting on independence and nominating ten delegates, on March 16 Venetian citizens will also be asked to decide on three foreign relations issues. “Do you want the Venetian Republic to join the European Union?”, “Do you want the Venetian Republic to adopt the Euro as the national currency?”, “Do you want the Venetian Republic to be a NATO ally?”. It is the first time any Italian citizens are directly asked to make decisions on foreign policy, and the possibility of declaring a new independent Venetian Republic required directly consulting the people. “There might be a two-third majority of Venetian citizens in favor of independence, and there might be leaders committed to make it immediately executive” explains political expert Gianfranco Favaro, “but there are fierce contrasting views on the aftermath. The best way is to have the majority decide”. In particular, Veneto Business, the trade association that has financed the referendum campaign is pro Euro and pro EU, but it is not at all certain that this is the majority view among Venetians.

http://blog.plebiscito.eu/news/in-four-days-veneto-votes-to-secede-from-italy-after-grillo-governor-zaia-also-withdraws-his-support/

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